I think I’m mad at the Teen Wolf fandom cuz literally all this amazing character development is happening for like EVERYONE and literally the only shit that’s being written is Sterek, more Sterek, and more Sterek and it’s like: i’m all about writing what you want but jfc I’d like to see SOMETHING ELSE that takes into account the changes in both of their characters and the potential relationships they could have with other people too and I’m probs gonna regret this post later but w/e. I like Sterek quite a bit I just like other stuff too.
AU where Chuck and Herc aren’t related, are the same ages as their actors, and Chuck’s just the cocky shitbag that an ever-suffering Herc has to keep in line
sometimes with his dick.
"i like the twins"
words never before spoken on teen wolf the show or in the teen wolf fandom
LIES I FUCKING LOVE THE TWINS.But then again I’m weird.
Alright, I’m probably going to lose followers over this, but I’ve got to ask.
Why Hansencest and Becketcest?
I have a passion for human psychology, and I’m trying to figure out where the attraction is in incestuous ships – not judge – just genuinely curious to understand where this one comes from.
At first, I believed that it was basically a kink or some kind of fantasy.
I mean, some people are into stories depicting rape, snuff, necrophilia, non-consexual sexual relationships, etc. So I figured that this was pretty much in the same category.
i.e. something about (grown) child abuse and psychological parental violence in the context of pure fantasy is appealing to people.
And it’s fine. I can respect people having these fantasies and writing about them.
But it seems so popular in this fandom, that I’m trying to figure out “What am I missing?”
Honestly, in my first viewing of the movie, I barely noticed that they were father and son until that last goodbye scene where Herc calls Chuck his son /facepalms (I think I was still trying to tell Chuck and Raleigh apart while keeping an eye out for awesome Jaeger vs. Kaiju fights.)
For me, I ship Hansencest and Becketcest because I think the prospect of the PR universe allows that, that in this particular world, it would be okay if the world was ending, if they were co-pilots, if they had the kind of connection that a drift allows, and that a romantic/sexual relationship could develop without all the underlying abuse that is very much real in reality.
Certainly, there is that kink in there, the taboo, the immoral aspects to it that makes it appealing to some (to me, at times, depending on the day really). I write quite a bit of Hansencest but for me, I don’t always want to explore the darkwrongawfulbad aspect so of course I would write fluff pieces where that problem gets swept under the rug.
However you boil it down though, incest is incest is incest and those are issues that needs to be addressed, and that also makes quite the topic for another fic too.
tl; dr: the premise of the PR universe gives me the OK (that or I’m completely delusion and have a warped sense of what’s what).
I hadn’t considered it was drift based, but yeah, that makes sense. Not only are these relationship filled with feelings of angst and tons of history, everything you need to dig into them, but with the added element of the drift, it’s almost like you can strip away everything but the very soul of the person.
Cannonically, the drift or neural handshake (not sure on what the difference is) is so profound that you take on traits and aspects of the other person. You’re mentally melding with the other person, so much so that a bridge (ghost drift) is present when you aren’t even connected. There are even points when you are thinking as one person, not two. You can argue that the 2 selves are obliterated and in it’s place is another whole, separate, and unique entity. All these concepts are cannon in this verse. If that’s your jumping off point…..just imagine the possibilities.
Both of the pairings mentioned are drift partners. I don’t see much or any Stacker/Mako even though that is a relationship that is comparable to Herc and Chuck’s (parent/child). But they aren’t drift partners so there would be an added hurdle to cross. Not that it can’t be done…..I just don’t see it often at all.
But what about AUs, you ask? Perhaps due to our drift canon, our aus are given a bit more leeway. I think that’s where the kink themselves come largely into play. Daddy!kink and sibling!kink have been around forever!! Some people really love them, some people, avoid at all costs. Some, like myself, are somewhere in between, wavering back and forth depending on whatever shiny pretty thing is distracting us at the moment.
I think fandom ships are created like a great stew. You add a ton of different elements together and sometimes you end up with mush (ships not many people care about) but sometimes you strike gold (ships people are willing to go to war over). The foundational relationship combined with the implications of the drift, combined with how hot these actors are aaaand….out of the pot comes Hansencest and Becketcest.
I agree with what others have said previously about the idea that the Drift allows the pilots to become one, thus essentially erasing the boundaries between you and me until you’re basically youandme. Another thing that, for me, especially, gives credence to Becketcest specifically, is the way Raleigh is completely destroyed after losing his brother. The novelization literally says “There was blood in Raleigh’s eye, and a hole the shape of his brother in his soul.” That’s a very powerful description that reads more like losing a lover than a brother, because, no matter how much I love my brother, I would never EVER say that his death would shred a piece of my soul. It would make me sad, I would miss him, I would mourn him, yes, but I wouldn’t describe it to the point of saying that a piece of the very metaphysical thing that makes me who I am is missing. In fact, the choice of the word “Soul” over “mind” in that phrase is, to me, very telling. Mind would’ve been the technically more correct way to put it, since two pilots, when linked, are of one mind; there’s no mention of souls coming in to play. So why the choice of that particular word? The only answer I can come up with that satisfies me is that they were closer than brothers normally are. Yes, it’s possible that we’re talking levels of codependence approaching or even exceeding the Winchesters from Supernatural, but, given the way they grew up—that is, at one point, having absolutely nothing but each other to rely on, no one else they felt they could trust or turn to or lean on—it’s not too much of a leap for me to say that their relationship evolved into something… more.
As for Hansencest, well, for me, mostly that one was due to the fact that the first time I saw the movie I literally missed the part where it was said that they were father and son, and I legit thought that they were a gay married couple until Raleigh sat with Herc to eat and Chuck said to Herc “eh, dad?” Then, after that, I couldn’t really escape my initial impression? So I pretty much spent the entire movie viewing their actions through the lens of a gay couple and then that last scene just tore me to pieces because of everything that was left unsaid. BASICALLY, that scene leaves so much up to interpretation and the two of them act so much more like a bickering couple than father and son that, again, coupled with the fact that they drift (which, as was mentioned before, sort of seems to tear down the barriers between two people), it wasn’t—for me—too much of a logical leap. YES, there is the issue of consent, which you mentioned, in the sense that Herc is older than Chuck and is therefore, by nature, in a position of authority over him. And while some people like to write about that, the Hansencest I primarily enjoy is the kind where their relationship is proven to be consensual through various means (primarily by making it so that Herc is not the instigator of the relationship). Throwing daddy kink in there can’t hurt for some, but even then I, personally, can’t read it if there’s a power-play at work unless it is part of a controlled kink (that is to say, that there’s not ACTUALLY a power play at work, that it’s Chuck and Herc acting like there is for their own sexual gratification because they mutually get off on it).
And, y’know, for me, there’s another factor at work. Which is that I’m a biologist, not a psychologist. I understand that the primary psychological argument against incest is that there are certain roles that family is supposed to play in a person’s life, but my response to that is this: in whose culture/society? Ours, right? Well, who says our culture/society is correct? Many cultures have existed with incest in the past, existed for literally hundreds, sometimes thousands of years with it. So, again, who is to say that our culture is right? The biological argument against incest is primarily the conception of genetically defective offspring through inbreeding, but, in Becketcest and Hansencest, it’s impossible for them to conceive, so it’s a nonissue. Please note: This is NOT me saying that anyone who has undergone a traumatic experience in their life involving incest is not justified in being traumatized. If someone have been, they are COMPLETELY justified in that, because it’s a product of our society and how we’re raised to have it leave that kind of trauma. I’m merely pointing out that, while I definitely do not condone incest in real life, the idea that incest is unilaterally wrong is more accurately a biological construct than a cultural one, and if you eliminate the biological aspect/danger of it, then all that’s left is something that—if put in the right framework (that is to say, OUTSIDE of a society like ours, such as, maybe, an apocalyptic society)—can be considered somewhat obsolete for members of an alternative society. So, basically, a summary of the above paragraph: me being a biologist makes me think a lot more about why we have these taboos in the first place (because almost everything in existence, down to the fact that we have emotions, has a biological, evolutionary basis) and analyzing them through that lens.
Anyway, that’s just how I see it. I’m, again, not saying that I’m right or that everyone will or even should agree with me (chances are, most people disagree), but, in summary, I feel comfortable shipping Becketcest and Hansencest because 1: The Drift removes the barriers between two people until they’re practically one person; 2: the movie and novel use very questionable/meaningful/suggestive wording and body language and phraseology that implies a deeper relationship than that of merely family between the characters; 3: I actually generally avoid the problematic fics that have issues of consent (i.e., noncon/dubcon); 4: the story takes place in a world we can’t really imagine, so it’s hard to say that their value system will be the same as ours, so the only basis we have left to judge incest is the biological taboo, which, in a M-M or F-F relationship, does not apply; and, 5: yes they’re hot I can admit that much.
Team: Sam Winchester and Dean Winchester
Jaeger: Scorch Brackish
Class: Mark I
- Scorch Brackish is a primary response jaeger with a focus on powerful, unfocused combat. As a Mark I, information on kaiju was limited. Thus, Scorch Brackish was designed to combat any type of kaiju that could emerge from the breach. This includes a hard steel exterior and a powerful nuclear reactor.
- The right arm contains a large array of high caliber firearms, enough to level a city (or a kaiju roughly the size of one).
- The left arm contains flaming jets and a pair of solid steel hooks to limit a kaiju’s mobility and sear its limbs and torso.
Shatterdome: Constructed at one of the old Boeing plants in Kansas, Scorch Brackish worked in tours at Los Angeles, Lima, and Sydney.